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Hull and East Riding Humanist Group

A social group for humanists, atheists, secularists, sceptics and agnostics


Date:        Monday 19th November 2018, 7.30pm
Venue:    the back room of the Tiger Inn, Lairgate, Beverley, East Yorkshire, HU17 8JG 

We had a last minute change of topic for our November meeting as Nigel de Lee wass going in to hospital on Monday. In place of Nigel’s talk we had one of our open discussion meetings on recent news and topics of interest to Humanists.

Date:      Monday 15th October 2018, 7.30pm
Venue:   the back room of the Tiger Inn, Lairgate, Beverley, East Yorkshire, HU17 8JG

In a re-scheduling of the original date, our October meeting was a talk by Revd. Philip West on the differences and similarities of the Humanist and Christian world views. Philip says of his upcoming talk:

“Having served as a full time Anglican priest for 38 years, mostly in Sheffield, I came to South Holderness for a retirement post in 2016 and started attending HERHG out of interest, where I have appreciated your welcome and your programme of fascinating topics, and where through listening to opinions expressed I have hopefully begun to understand what Humanism is about.
From that perspective I hope we can explore in productive fashion what unites and divides the Christian and the Humanist. It seems to me that the priorities of both are the promotion and encouragement of active compassion and justice as essential life goals both for themselves and for society, and both are truth seekers. The patent difference is that for the Christian the growth of both the individual and society towards compassion requires partnership with God, whereas for the humanist the divine does not exist. The question of truth becomes essentially whether or not Christ is the truth. I am aware that this debate often becomes mired in claims and counter claims of whether the spiritual life causes good or harm, which seems to me to be almost impossible to answer objectively.”

Date:        Monday 17th September 2018, 7.30pm
Venue:    the back room of the Tiger Inn, Lairgate, Beverley, East Yorkshire, HU17 8JG 

Our September meeting wase a discussion lead by Susan Harr who made the case against the consumerist society we live in.

Socrates said “What is the point of walls and warships and glittering statues if the men who build them are not happy?” The twentieth century Humanist Bertrand Russell once said “It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly”. Others point to pollution and environmental problems caused by mass consumption of consumer goods, yet few of us would choose to live without the comforts of household appliances such as washing machines, fridges, televisions and computers. The average person in the UK has a much higher standard of living in material terms than in previous centuries and some would point out that the main beneficiaries of the cheap products sold in western stores are the low income group consumers who purchase those products, yet many people such as John Sentamu, the Archbishop of York, object to what they see as “rampant consumerism”. Does consumerism make the world better or worse?

Date:    Monday 2oth August 2018, 7.30pm
Venue: the back room of the Tiger Inn, Lairgate, Beverley, East Yorkshire, HU17 8JG

Our August speaker was Dr Stephen Burwood of the University of Hull Philosophy department who has been a long term supporter of the Humanists UK philosophers group and has spoken to HERHG twice before, on 24th May 2014 on “Is Science Possible without God?” and before that on 19th October 2009 on “The Problem of Evil”. This time Steve will be talking about “Personal Identity and the Brain”.
Steve said of his talk:
“The diachronic problem of personal identity is the problem of determining the identity of something over time: in our case, for example, it is expressed by the question, “What makes us the same person today as yesterday, or last year, or as ten years ago?” A popular answer nowadays is often formulated along the lines; same person = same brain. One can see the philosophical appeal of this. It gives voice to a widespread feeling that the brain plays a unique role in mindedness (paying due deference to the brain sciences) and, perhaps more importantly, neatly captures in one go both psychological and physical continuity (the two traditional approaches to resolving the problem). Fundamentally, this brain-is-self view favours psychological continuity as the principal criterion of self identity but gives this a materialist twist, thereby ensuring a form of physical continuity as well. Pared down to a simple syllogism, the argument appears to be as follows: I am my mind; my mind is—in some important sense—my brain; therefore, I am my brain. However, things are never quite so simple and there are several reasons why this is not a very satisfactory or satisfying answer.”

Has Market Capitalism Delivered?

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Date:    Monday 16th July 2018, 7.30pm
Venue: the back room of the Tiger Inn, Lairgate, Beverley, East Yorkshire, HU17 8JG

May 2018 saw the bicentennial of the birth of the influential thinker Karl Marx whose books, including “Das Kapital”, have influenced the intellectual, economic and political history of the world since they were written in the mid-nineteenth century. Marx’s criticisms of what he called “capitalism” have seen renewed interest in western countries since the beginning of the financial crisis ten years ago. The leading Humanist Steven Pinker’s new book “Enlightenment Now: The Case for Reason, Science, Humanism and Progress” includes a defence of modern market capitalism as an important component in achieving Humanist objectives in the twenty-first century. Our June meeting was a discussion led by group chair John Hawkins on the relevance of Marx to contemporary Humanist discourse and asking the question “Has Market Capitalism Delivered?”

John said of his talk:
“I will give an outline of Karl Marx’s life and work, showing that whatever the failures of Capitalism of his time, he and Engels made their living by means of it, and go on to maintain that the Russian and Chinese Revolutions which to which their ideas contributed, caused more misery and mass starvation that could directly attributed to capitalism up to 1960. I will go on to argue that Paul Mason’s recent book ‘POSTCAPITALISM’ is a heroic failure because its impressive scholarship is not matched by sufficient analysis of the global, social and economic realities of our time and the world’s ‘political infrastructure’. However, we are greatly in Mason’s debt for an account of some of the major problems that face contemporary statesmen and women.”